Americans call it a “nothingburger” and the transcripts of the phone calls between Michael Flynn, then an adviser to President-elect Donad Trump, did not absolve Flynn of lying to investigators since he promised then Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak a “better conversation” and asked him to be “even-keeled” in dealing with outgoing President Barack Obama.

In a story written by Eric Tucker for the Associated Press (AP) on May 30, 2020, he said

“the transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and then-Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, a central moment in the Russia investigation. The information released Friday conforms with the rough outlines of the call described in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team of prosecutors.”

Democrats said the transcripts showed that Flynn had lied to the FBI when he denied details of the conversation, and that he was undercutting a sitting president while communicating with a country that had just interfered in the 2016 presidential election.

Rep. Adam Schiff, the Democratic chairman of the House intelligence committee, said in a statement that the transcripts show that Flynn lied not only to the FBI but also to Vice President Mike Pence, who erroneously stated publicly that Flynn and Kislyak had not discussed sanctions. Trump later forced Flynn out for misleading the administration. “These calls took place shortly after the Russian government interfered in the 2016 election in an effort to help Trump win, and Flynn was engaged in trying to mute the Russian reaction to sanctions imposed by the Obama Administration over that very interference,” Schiff said.